How to Compromise Matrimonial Disputes
SOME1 wrote:
Chatur Bhai, I want the matrimonial dispute
compromised between me & my wife.
Can you pls suggest me what are the options under
which a compromise can be signed between varying couple who are in court room
against each other as enemies.
How’s that possible in that scenario?
Thanks for your kind help ad attention SIR.
aturchatur wrote:
dear SOME1, It
can be done either through MCD (mutually consented divorce) or it can be done
through mediator agreement based settlement or it can be through court fixed
settlement terms binding on both the parties or through counseling in CAW
followed by mediator agreement (which may be biased as per my personal
experience) or through DDRS (Delhi Dispute Resolution Society) or compromise
agreement before mediation centre of a court or a compromise achieved by judge/
PJ or Family Court Judge himself mediating between varying spouse.
But, as per my personal experience, if the spouse
files counter cases on the petitioner/ complainant (which is usually a wife),
and he files counter cases in such a manner that the documentary evidences submitted
by him are non-rebuttable by the petitioner/ complainant spouse then in that
situation the compromise can be achieved at the terms of the defendant spouse.
For example:- In counter cases, the spouse should not normally put any fresh
allegation and instead the best way to file counter cases is just to catch the
lies of the wife. For instance, if the wife says that she needs right to
residence or she needs an amount equivalent to rent and the husband knows that
such wife immediately before filing 498a/ caw/ dv/ 125 etc had relinquished her
share of property in the name of her mother by concealing her identity and the
husband has collected evidences through sub-registrar office then this is
cheating with the sub registrar office u/s 420 IPC as she concealed her true
legal identity r/w the RTI evidences and this is also fraud on husband because
after leaving husband and before filing cases she did such 420 IPC crime just
to extort money from the husband and this is also fraud on court i.e., perjury
hence in this situation three counter cases or at least three counter actions
become very strong against the wife viz., (a) 420 IPC, (b) Extortion, & (c)
Perjury and some more applications or counter cases to further push/ press the
above three counter attacks may be as follows:- (d) perjury decide first, (e)
arrest warrant against the wife for avoiding reply to perjury/ 420/ extortion
if she avoids attending court due to this, (f) proxy fraud if she sends a proxy
counsel on behalf of husband without husband’s authorization in order to avoid
filing reply to perjury filed by husband, (g) written notes of arguments/
pursis/ purshis and many more.
SOME1 wrote:
Sir, you are the men rights activist then why are
you writing spouse which means both husband and wife.
do you help the wives also in compromising a
matrimonial dispute? wouldn’t that be a loss for the husbands if your expertise
is used for the wives also. do u also help wives file counter cases against the
husbands.
aturchatur wrote:
@ SOME1 I am
not anti-women or anti-men. But of course, I am anti-falsity i.e., I am against
false cases. I am an ardent fan of Mahatma Gandhi who preached truth. I am a
big fan of truth. Thanks for calling me expert but I do a very easy job i.e.,
exposing the lies and pressing the truth which is very easy in the long run. In
the short run of course there may be trouble for the truth but truth can not be
defeated in the long run. Truth can even give instant results i.e., within a
short period of time (6 months or more) husband can put his wife behind bars if
420 IPC or 138 NIA or Extortion type counter cases filed by him are supported
with documentary evidences and husband is able to prove that the motive behind
such crime/s was to extort money from the husband by abusing the power of the
courts i.e., abuse of the process of the courts by pretending herself to be
abla nari & misuse of the soft laws made for the protection of real victim
women.
aturchatur wrote:
@ SOME1, u
asked me whether I help women also then my answer is I try my level best to end
a matrimonial dispute and more than around 98% people who call me are husbands
or their relatives or other men suffering from unethical women in any manner.
But if a woman comes to me and asks me to compromise a matrimonial dispute
between her & her husband then I may charge Rs. 2,000/- from her for
consulting her matter with me and if within the consulting I find that she is
really ready to settle or compromise the matter with her husband as per
husband’s paying capacity then I might advise her to give me express permission
to contact her husband and discuss the matter with him. And after that if I may
contact her husband then I may straight forward introduce myself to the husband
and refer him to my website to read about me and instead of round and round
talks I would rather ask the husband that your wife has come to me for settlement
or compromising this matrimonial dispute. and if the husband shows positive
signals or asks for time to think then instead of leaking this info to the wife
directly I would rather wait and if it is found out that the husband and wife
are ready to compromise at a amount then I might suggest them to give their
respective terms to me so that I can assist them in preparing written agreement
or mou or memorandum of understanding which is agreeable to both the sides. Of
course, I may charge fees only for my services and I may not charge a
percentage of commission as some agents may charge example:- monkey eats
chapatti of two fighting cats. My goal would be to settle the dispute and not
to escalate it. I would very strongly recommend them to not to take any lawyer
or advocate with them during settlement or compromise because in family courts
any of the parties to a dispute can object to the opposite party having
advocate or lawyer and they must get the counsel/ advocate/ AOR/ lawyer of the
other party also removed under the family courts act. However, amicus curae can
be appointed by the court to settle their differences. But if the agreement or
MOU is ready then job of amicus curae gets simplified and the process of
compromise gets faster and I am a write-up expert so I try my best to take care
of the interest of both the parties in such a manner that the husband is
protected from false cases later on and the wife is protected from unwarranted
trespass by the husband later on and of course I assist them in writing the
custody and maintenance points in such a manner that this leaves almost no
scope for dispute at a later stage.
SOME1 wrote:
Sir, Why wives do NOT goto jail in India for
abusing Dowry laws?
aturchatur wrote:
because either the husband doesn’t fights in the
right manner or during the fight he meets many people from judges to lawyers to
police to counsel/ advocate to men rights activists to other false case victims
or ex-victims of false cases and he also discusses a lot with his aunts.
Uncles, friends, relatives etc and some of these people misguide the husband in
believing that the wife can not goto jail and they may tell the husband to
withdraw his counter cases and as soon as the husband withdraws his counter
cases under pressure or under misguidance by those people then the wife does
not go to jail. Misguiding is so bad that even Lord Krishna misguided the
Duryodhana to make the opposite party win in Mahabharata when during the war
duryodhana’s mother told him to come fully naked before him so that when his
mother will open her eyes then whatever organ/ body part his mother would see
that part will become undefeatable but since Lord Krishna was an ardent fan
& supporter of the opposite party hence he did shame shame to duryodhana
and made fun of him going named before his mother and told him to cover his
thighs area at least and duryodhana did the same and consequently his all body
parts were undefeatable but his thighs area was not so strong due to the mis
advise or misguidance by Lord Krishna.
Moral of the story:-
(1) Despite
being god Lord Krishna, he did this in order to make the opposite party win
which means if we believe in advise of those people who mis-guide us then we
have lost already and the opposite party had won. Similarly, if the husband has
a lot of faith in his lawyer/ advocate and subsequently such lawyer / advocate gets
in touch with the opp party and gets some undisclosed favors from the wife in
cash or in kind then the husband has lost already but remember that all lawyers
are not bad. But I, Atur Chatur, am strictly against using any lawyer/
advocate/ men rights activists in this fight against false cases. Just believe
in yourself and proceed in that manner which seems right to you. Follow the
advises of your parents especially and if they are not knowledgeable enough
then discuss your fighting strategies with them and if they tell you to go
ahead then do that which seems right to you & your parents with the
blessings of the god. My advises are available for free on the internet and if
you do not have money to pay for my services then gather courage and have faith
in you and do all possible actions that fit in the case scenario and if your
wife has done a 420 IPC crime or other serious crimes then do NOT withdraw your
counter cases application against her because withdrawal is as good as
dismissed and your right is closed. Do it P-I-P i.e., Party-in-Person as per my
personal suggestion. Always remember that, your wife will certainly go to jail
with 100% guarantee especially for 420 IPC related crimes but for that the
husband needs to be adamant in the same manner the wife is usually adamant when
the judge asks the wife whether to send the husband to jail for non payment of
maintenance and the wife says yes usually. Remember that if the husband can go
to jail in a bl@@dy matrimonial dispute then your wife will certainly go to
jail for 420 IPC or related stringent IPC or other crimes and for the success
of your wife’s arrest just do not forget to link those 420 IPC or related
crimes as the motive behind filing these false matrimonial cases in you. If
Indrani Mukherjea can go to jail despite being a woman then your wife can also
go to jail for IPC crimes and if Indrani Mukherjea was charged with murder then
that does not mean that your wife also has to do murder in order to go to jail.
Further, if husband’s mother & sisters or other women relatives can go to
jail due to 498a IPC then why not your wife can go to jail. There is no
immunity available to a wife and if she has deliberately & intentionally
done a crime then she is equally liable to be punished under IPC and other
provisions of law.
(2) Do NOT
appoint a lawyer or advocate if he says that your wife can not go to jail for
crimes committed by her.
(3) Do NOT
appoint a lawyer or advocate if he says that the judge does not have time to
read your WS
(4) Do NOT
appoint a lawyer or advocate if does not discuss the strategy or course of
action with you.
(5) Do NOT
appoint a lawyer or advocate if he shows so much attitude to you and does not
listens to you and wants to do everything as per his own wishes.
(6) Do NOT
appoint a lawyer or advocate if he promises to settle the matrimonial dispute at
a certain amount and in return asks for a percentage of amount saved by him.
For example tells the wife not to settle at 5 lakhs as hewill demand 25 lakhs
and out of that he will give 10 lakh to wife and 15 lakh he will keep to
himself or give some share to judge or mediator. If any lawyer does some deal
with you then immediately file a complaint against him in the bar council &
central vigilance commission by submitting audio-video recording evidences.
(7) Do NOT
appoint a lawyer if he shouts at your ideas or suggestions or if he shouts at
the ideas or suggestions that you gather from internet or other reliable
sources.
(8) Do NOT
appoint a lawyer or advocate if you discuss something with you and he gets
angry at you and tells you to leave his cabin and get your work done by others.
(9) Do NOT
appoint a lawyer or advocate if he asks you to pay full payment in advance.
(10)Do NOT
appoint a lawyer or advocate who asks you such a low fees which is practically
not possible.
(11)Do NOT
appoint a lawyer or advocate if he pressurizes you to give contact details of
your spouse and promises to settle the case by paying certain amount to police
or court etc.
(12)Do NOT
appoint a lawyer or advocate if he presents himself to be the karta-dharta of a
certain court and claims that judges work as per his desires in that court or
pretends before you as if he knows someone who has links with the police or
judiciary.
(13)Do NOT
appoint a lawyer or advocate if he shows you a ex-client and falsely claims you
about that client having won under his guidance. In such case must ensure to
read the judgment or documents at indiakanoon website about that client only
then move ahead.
(14)Do NOT
appoint a lawyer or advocate if he discourages you about party in person and
tries to put fear in you that judge will put you In jail if you will go PIP
before him.
Party in Person [Inderjit Singh Sawhney in
Delhi High Court]
This PIP resulted in a landmark judgment from Delhi High Court for
benefit et al r/w:-
http://indiankanoon.org/doc/153453675/
KABADDI TACTICS
In Order to fight this
fight against gender biased laws, one needs to understand the KABADDI TACTICS
where your prime focus even if it is your wife but still you need to focus on
some more areas which infact trouble u & your family more than the wife
herself. This will help you understand how to close these false cases &
SOCIAL STIGMA on u & family.
Remember, the courts all
over the world give sanctity to a wife/lady/abla naari's words & your core
concentration must be to break this myth and to tell the court (thru Perjury
& Vehement Argumentation) that she is NOT abla nari because her words
include, "perjurious accusations" & also inlcude the terminology
"shirking responsibilities" in case that suits.
YOUR
FIGHT IS NOT WITH YOUR WIFE Your fight is NOT with your wife and instead Your
fight is with the system which believes the words of your wife as sacred which
you very well know are false. Attack on this sanctity belief of the courts
& make them believe that the plaint by your wife is vexatious & these
accusations are perjurious.
Because if u include all
those averments within WS+Perjury then that would mean "EK TEER DO
NISHANA" because while replying to her plaint you will put Perjury within
WS & this will mean that your WS will prove that her complaint is vexatious
& also filled with perjurious accusations & shirking responsibilities.
aturchatur's
advise
Perjury & Contempt are
the two ways to close these false cases on u & to come out of this SOCIAL
STIGMA on u & family if you just rely on the words of the complainant only
then that is the best approach as per aturchatur.
Expl to
aturchatur's advise
When she files a plaint
against u then that copy of plaint is enough & if you just pull her words only
& just prove that so & so allegations are vague, this is perjurious,
this is vague, this is contradictory, this proves vacillating stand, this
proves shirking responsibilities, etc etc then that is the best possible
approach as per aturchatur. Further, at any point of time, if you need to get more
words out from her which she is NOT giving then apply Order XI Rule 1 r/w:-
Source:- http://socialstigma.in (see post with heading Interrogatory or Order
XI Rule 1)
And if u want to speed up
the matter other than Order XI Rule 1 then use 21B as follows:-
Source:- http://socialstigma.in (see post with heading speedy trial)
Why other than Order XI
Rule 1 because this Order XI Rule 1 will itself work fast with 7-7 days
time to respond ?
Thanks Friends, and
Best Wishes & Happy Fighting false cases
& SOCIAL STIGMA
on u & family !!!
Mahatma Gandhi said, "IF YOU DON'T
ASK, YOU DON'T GET"
Atur Chatur
says, "WHAT YOU WILL ASK, THAT YOU WILL GET"
Vidyavaan Guni Ati Chatur, Ram Kaj Karibe Ko Atur
Email : aturchatur@yahoo.com
disclaimer:- all advises here to be r/w profile aturchatur.com
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SOCIAL STIGMA (WOMEN) !!!
Friends !!!
A Girl was trapped in Perjury. And she was in SOCIAL STIGMA. I
found on internet about her:-
PURPOSE OF THIS THREAD
(1) Purpose of this thread
is NOT to unite All the Families alike.
(2) Purpose of this thread
is ONLY TO UNITE & SAVE THOSE FAMILIES ONLY where there is a POSSIBILITY
OR WILLINGNESS to unite
their family life or married life &/or where cldren/issues involved
&/or where love existed ever.
SOME1 wrote:
Can u pls elaborate ? And Happy.B'day Atur Chatur
sir. You are a perfect nine genius. I wish you very best.
aturchatur wrote:
@ SOME1, thanks.
i found about this girl on
internet where she narrated her story. she told that out of fit of anger she
went to PS to lodge complaint. The PS guys referred her to CAW Cell. She wanted
union with her husband & wanted him to live with him separately but her
parental relatives never suggested her to unite. Instead they themselves consulted
with a low earning lawyer & made a false complaint with wild allegations.
She said that her relatives not even let her read that complaint copy &
just got signs from her. She wanted to pass her messages to her husband but her
relatives always stood between husband & wife.
The moment husband got
copy of CAW Complaint, he filed divorce on the basis of wild allegations
(cruelty) by wife. Her relatives then using M Power got him arrested for three
days. The wife never knew about all that. She used to write on networking sites
that she loves being with her husband but her relatives shattered all her hopes
to reunion.
aturchatur wrote:
i don't know whether the
woman is lying or is trying to create a better picture of herself or infact is speaking
truth.
aturchatur wrote:
@ et al,what
should be the approach for a genuine woman who don't want to be labelled
disgruntled by filing
false cases
& who wants to unite. is there a way to unite the families at pre-caw,
post-caw, post-FIR, post-arrest,
post-CS, post-DV, other stages ?
SOME2 wrote:
@Chatur
Doubt if such
"genuine woman" exists ? Considering there has been no cruelty for
dowry then how come any genuine woman in a fit of rage lodge a 498 complaint ?
She can raise a domestic violence complaint but if she lodges a 498 complaint
then doubt if she was genuine just my 2 cents.
aturchatur wrote:
@ SOME2, I myself also doubt strongly.
But the question is scope of reunion. Is
there any scope of reunion with such woman?
What a woman can do in beginning
at least if not later to save the marriage or is it a hard fact that women who
leave their husbands they do this permanently ?
Is it always planned ?
Even if it is planned or
unplanned then what a woman can/ must/ might/ shall/ have to do at various
stages to unite with her husband & family. (in the light of various
sections like 304B, second 498a, & other options which Indian system give
to them to trap innocent men in false cases).
Is there a solution?
Is there a possibility?
Or it that all gone once
she leaves husband’s home?
let's discuss from
different pointers viz., pre-caw, post-caw, post-FIR, post-arrest, post-CS,
post-DV, other stages?
so, even if 1% women are
genuine & want to save their marriages then such knowledge will help both
the genders. if even one family is united i will feel my purpose fulfilled.
et al :- suggestions
invited.
SOME2 wrote:
@chatur
pre-caw & post-caw :
There is some scope for reunion provided both husband and wife mend their ways
and suppress egos.
post-FIR, post-arrest,
post-CS, post-DV, other stages : After all these stages it becomes really difficult
for reunion because of lot of factors, understanding the wife is genuine but as
the crow flies men really need to save their a$$ rather reunion ...
aturchatur wrote:
@ SOME2, u said “post-FIR,
post-arrest, post-CS, post-DV, other stages : After all these stages it becomes
really difficult for reunion because of lot of factors, understanding the wife
is genuine but as the crow flies men really need to save their a$$ rather
reunion ...”
But my next question is as
follows:-
Is it very difficult or is said to be impossible? Are all the doors closed I
mean to ask?
Let's say 498a becomes
compoundable in all states. Will there be any scope ?
Let's say litigations
become a no arrest scenario. Will there be any scope ?
Basically, I want you all
friends to present here a MOU i.e., an agreement to unite families to safeguard
men from future troubles i.e., false cases or at least the reduce troubles to
the minimum. And to which a women must also agree. If she chooses to sign such
an agreement then it shall be assumed she truly wants to unite & will not
do such disgruntled practices again. Any suggestions. Thanks
SOME2 wrote:
@chatur
Is it very
difficult or is said to be impossible ?
Difficult if kids are involved and impossible
if there are no kids.
Let's say 498a
becomes compoundable in all states. Will there be any scope ?
Yes
Let's say
litigations become a no arrest scenario. Will there be any scope ?
Yes
I Don't think MOU really
works in relationships over time.
aturchatur wrote:
OK, In that case once it becomes
compoundable as that's the current task in hands of PM Modi, then there will be
a hope towards unification of families.
@ SOME2, I do
understand MOU do NOT work in relationships but once out of such a situation
then PAPER TIGER need to be agreed & signed because after police/ court it
needs the third party stamp before re-unification, so I personally feel there
is need for such a MOU which will at least decrease the fear in minds of men
due to gender biased laws in India.
et al, pls suggest !!!
Mahatma Gandhi said, "IF YOU DON'T
ASK, YOU DON'T GET"
Atur Chatur
says, "WHAT YOU WILL ASK, THAT YOU WILL GET"
Vidyavaan Guni Ati Chatur, Ram Kaj Karibe Ko Atur
Email : aturchatur@yahoo.com
disclaimer:- all advises here to be r/w profile aturchatur.com
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Application for Condonation of Perjury
If a woman wants to unite
with her hubby, then she can file application for condonation of perjury and
list down all the wrongs/ lies on court said by her. This way woman will move a
step further because even if her husband is not aturchatur (i mean perjury
applicant) then also at least she will herself make her case weak. This will
give an extra point to his hubby & a signal that she is willing to roll
back the cases.
The hubby will definitely
respond. May be first he will be under apprehension but slowly over some time
he will understand & try to respond positively.
@Women, @Feminists, @other
false case filers :- no one will get anything by filing false cases. It is a
loss of both the sides. Because in a WAR the one who has lesser bruises is
declared the winner. So better roll back
one by one. And other
p@rty is expected to welcome your decision in the following manner:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9HpyNBNvi8
Mahatma Gandhi said, "IF YOU DON'T
ASK, YOU DON'T GET"
Atur Chatur
says, "WHAT YOU WILL ASK, THAT YOU WILL GET"
Vidyavaan Guni Ati Chatur, Ram Kaj Karibe Ko Atur
Email : aturchatur@yahoo.com
disclaimer:- all advises here to be r/w profile aturchatur.com
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SOME8 wrote:
I do not know about anyone
else but my wife is in SOCIAL STIGMA after I filed 420 &
406 cases against her. I informed her family and her three brother in laws
about the case and how she ran away from home for my money and jewelry.
My sources tell me that
they are very stressed and my wife regularly fights with her bhabhis. I will be
sending arrest warrants against her in this months itself in both the cases
provided the courts functions (magistrate are being transferred).
I will also be getting her
passport impounded u/s 10(3)(e) of the passport act 1967.
Very few people
successfully file counter cases against 498 A wife. People think that it is
next to impossible to file counter cases against a 498 A wife. But it is not
true. Yes it is not as easy as to file a false dowry case but with proper
planning and evidence it is possible.
I not only filed cases
against my wife but also helped two other victims to file non bailable cases
against their
wife and family.
I will discuss about one
of those cases-
The guy got married and
after two years of the marriage the wife conceived a baby. During tests it was discovered
that the wife is infected with a disease which is in chronic stage. The disease
can be equated with aids but less deadly. The disease was also transferable as
aids putting husbands life at risk if he continued with the conjugal life. He
spoke to her parents to find out about the origin of the disease and he came to
know that it has come from her family.
The disease was non
curable. The boy was poorly advised by his lawyer and instead of filing for
annulment of marriage, he filed for divorce on ground of disease and some other
ground as suggested by his lawyer. The girl's side filed 498 A. He stood the
ground and kept on fighting. He was on provisional bail and was under tremendous
pressure from the other side.
He contacted me through
one of his relatives whom I helped to secure bail. I advised him to file a
criminal case against his wife and his family under various sections including
420 IPC. He will also get bail shortly because we will present his case in a
proper manner.
I am confident that his
wife and her parents will be arrested in next 3-6 months.
They will face SOCIAL STIGMA.
SOME9 wrote:
@ SOME8, you
are right.
Instead of annulment, filing criminal case is
always a better option.
And if someone has the documentary evidence also
to adduce in the court of law then that will be treated as sone pe suhaga.
The same purpose of divorce or annulment of
marriage will be achieved through proper channel i.e., criminal case which this
type of marriage involves criminal intent of the person/wife.
Since, divorce is a civil case & it might run
for years may 2 to 8 years even if the grounds are vaild.
But as suggested by mr. aturchatur sir above that
vehemently persuasion needs to be done. Accordingly , I feel that filing a
criminal case suits better because such girl hided this fact which was done
deliberately with criminal intent.
@ SOME8, can u
provide some information about the another person whom you jelped file criminal
nonbailable
cases against his wife.
SOME8 wrote:
No. I do not think it will
be proper to divulge any details of the other case.
SOME10 wrote:
yes, i agree with SOME9. criminal case seems better than civil case
or divorce case if there are documentary evidences.
pls also suggest some MOU
which can be written while uniting between the parties as discussed above.
@
SOME10, I am myself trying to find the key aspects of a MOU that can
help break the ice & unite the families.
I got suggestions from
some fellow fighters as follows:-
SOME1:- If wife accepts
most of the terms of husbands then she should be welcomed back.
SOME2:- If she must write
that cases filed by her were false, only then accept her.
SOME3:- She will never
accept this fact & only after acquittal this can be proved but only by
court.
SOME4:- File criminal
counters &/or perjury & let her bend on her knees if need early
settlement.
SOME5:- Willingness on the
part of wife is also important else EGO is something which will never allow to settle.
et al:- pls suggest, if
husband fights these cases then what MOU he shall put forward as in matrimonial
disputes
the matter often goes to
mediations. Is there any possibility at all to develop such a MOU which might
help unite
families.
Mahatma Gandhi said, "IF YOU DON'T
ASK, YOU DON'T GET"
Atur Chatur
says, "WHAT YOU WILL ASK, THAT YOU WILL GET"
Vidyavaan Guni Ati Chatur, Ram Kaj Karibe Ko Atur
Email : aturchatur@yahoo.com
disclaimer:- all advises here to be r/w profile aturchatur.com
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SOME9 wrote:
@all members, regarding
MOU, I can say that it must include a point that, "in future she will not
do any act which will cause trouble to husband & his family"
i think this indirect line
can be included so if wife does some mischief i.e., wrong allegation which now
husband proved wrong in next 498a then a criminal case will become strong
against the defaulting wife who signed & agreed that in MOU.
MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING – COMPROMISE DEED
aturchatur wrote:
SOME1 wrote:
broz, let me put my ACTUAL
MOU for your kind perusal. FOLLOW THE APOSTROPHEIZ
"""""" & the language iz the main arsenal :
Memorandum of
understanding is executed at New Delhi Dated: 6th Dec 2013 ( date ) between:
Mrs. SOME1 W/O Mr. SOME1,
D/O Mr. Father-in-law presently residing at xyz residence.
(Herein after called the
Ist party of the Ist part)
And
Mr. SOME1 S/O (late) Shri ABC and resident of abc
residence.
(Herein after called the
IInd party of the IInd part)
Whereas both the parties
have been married according to Hindu rights, customs and ceremonies on 27/11/2004
at Delhi and after the marriage a girl child namely Good Daughter was
born on 15/09/2006.
Due to certain unavoidable
circumstances due to marital dispute, the Ist party had to leave the
matrimonial home on 09/09/2013 and since then the Ist party is living with her
parents. In the meanwhile both the parties were trying to resolve all the
disputes/ differences in an amicable way.
"""""""""Under the guidance, social pressure & instruction of few
relatives & friends, both the parties’ party had lodged a
complaint/ complaints against each other with Sharafat Nagar police station,
New Delhi. Due to the strong bond of love between both the parties,
amicable talks & agreeing on all the points spoken by each party. Both
parties have decided will resolve their differences & disputes etc. while
staying together""""""""".
1. Both the parties have
agreed to create a healthy atmosphere in the matrimonial home so their daughter
can grow in the best possible way & become a good social being. Both the
parties have committed to resolve their grow in the best possible way &
become a good social being. Both the parties have committed to resolve their differences
in a mature & civil way. Both the parties have committed to give the best
environment to their minor daughter.
2. IInd party also
undertakes to give sufficient amount to the Ist party for household expenses,
besides expenses of the child. As current times, i.e. Economic, physical etc
are very uncertain & a husband & a wife both contribute to make a
structure into a family home, IInd party may request for some contribution from
the Ist party for the things mentioned above, """""""""though only in rare cases where IInd party is unable to provide for
them due to some uncertain & unavoidable circumstances. Most importantly,
as Ist party & their daughter are the only family IInd party has & no
one else""""""""".
3. IInd party undertakes
not to indulge in heavy drinking and smoking and shall not give any chance of complaints
to the Ist party and shall remain bound by this memorandum of understanding.
The same is expected from the Ist party, as in matters of providing homely
food, love, compassion & care, etc. towards the IInd party & their
daughter.
4. IInd party undertakes
not to send sms to the Ist party and her parents, relatives, colleagues etc. which
may cause unnecessary tensions. Similarly IInd party has requested with folded
hands that anyone from Ist parties family, sisters along with their matrimonial
home members, relatives, friends, known ones etc, should “ not “send any
message in any form, may be via mobile device sms, via internet, written etc.
5. IInd party has
requested with that he should not be forced by the Ist party, her family,
relatives, friends, known ones etc to visit their residential, official places,
family functions & vice a versa including the visits of the mentioned
members to the marital home of IInd party & Ist party as that has caused
mental trauma & agony in the past 9 years.
"""""""""6. II party has requested the Ist party, her family, sisters
along with their matrimonial home members, relatives, friends, known ones etc ‘
to not to’ interfere in IInd party & Ist party’s marital relation & their
home affairs, in any other activity & any which way of the mentioned
parties. Henceforth, IInd party is requesting this so that the relation of Ist
party, IInd part & their daughter can blossom which has suffered lots of
setbacks in the recent times.
7. IInd party requests Ist party to acknowledge if any money in cash or kind
has been demanded or not by IInd party from Ist party’s parents. If yes, then
would like its details. Everything belonging to IInd party has to be returned
by the Ist party & vice versa. This includes materialistic, documentary
things etc.
8. Ist party has to accept if the IInd party has been a provider/ major
provider towards all expenses at their matrimonial home since the first day of
marriage. Ist party has to acknowledge if the IInd party been responsible &
provider towards their daughter’s school fees since her first day at school.
Ist party has to either admit or deny if the IInd party has fulfilled all the
demands of Ist party since the first day of their marriage. IInd party will continue
to do so the best of ability.
9. IInd party would like to request on clarity on the case of Domestic
Violence filed by the Ist party against the IInd party. It has to be
acknowledged that this case did not hold true on everything mentioned. There
are other facets to this case from IInd party, which are not mentioned.
10. II party clearly reiterates that he wishes ‘not to stay’
ever with anyone apart from the Ist party & their minor daughter. II party
knows that there are some social obligations but would request Ist party, her
family, sisters along with their matrimonial home members, relatives, friends,
known ones etc to at least give a gestation period of 1 year to this couple
alone, so both parties bring back the good days of their marriage & their relation""""""""".
11. IInd party shall not
ask/give threat in future to the Ist party & vice versa to leave her/ his
matrimonial home or
residence in which they
are currently residing.
"""""""""12. Both the parties undertake to withdraw all the complaints/cases
etc against each other & the complaints/ cases pending be treated as
settled being for all purposes’. Concealing any such information/ legal case
will be treated as ‘ null & void legal case ‘.
13. Ist party
will not force the IInd party to obey to any of her demand by threatening to
commit suicide.
Details of
Cases Respectable Court Case Filed In Filed By
1. Sec 9of
Hindu Marriage Act Ms. Madhu Jain,Judge family Court,Saket IstParty
2.Sec 12 of
Domestic Voilence Ms.Monika Saroha,Mahila Court,Saket I stParty
3.Sec 13of
Hindu Marriage Act Ms. Madhu Jain,Judge family Court,Saket IIndParty
In witness
where of both the parties here to execute this memorandum of understanding in
presence of the
following
witnesses:-
Witnesses
1. Mrs. SOME1
(Ist party)
2. Mr. SOME1
(2nd party) """""""""
aturchatur wrote:
@
SOME1, Thanks for your genuineness & integrity & helpful nature
to help the fellow victims.
This will certainly be
helpful for forum members in drafting their own MOU.
Regarding your other
points I will comment later on. But, this 13th point is great & this is
something I am looking for to make a strongest of MOU's.
et al, pls come forward with your suggestions.
Mahatma Gandhi said, "IF YOU DON'T
ASK, YOU DON'T GET"
Atur Chatur
says, "WHAT YOU WILL ASK, THAT YOU WILL GET"
Vidyavaan Guni Ati Chatur, Ram Kaj Karibe Ko Atur
Email : aturchatur@yahoo.com
disclaimer:- all advises here to be r/w profile aturchatur.com
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SOME2 wrote:
Tried hard but still not able to believe the
story of the lady...
***As per
her, she told that out of fit of anger she went to PS to lodge complaint.
=> If the
husband let the lady come again... What is the guarantee that she will not get
angry again ever in life...
***The PS
guys referred her to CAW Cell. She wanted union with her husband & wanted
him to live with him separately but her parental relatives never suggested her
to unite. Instead they themselves consulted with a low earning lawyer &
made a false complaint with wild allegations. She said that her relatives not
even let her read that complaint copy & just got signs from her.
=> She
had guts to go and file false complaint against her husband in anger but do not
had guts to go against her parents and relatives although she wanted to unite
again and also knew that she is about to cross the deadline of marital life if
not reunited here... and have future only with her husband....
*** She
wanted to pass her messages to her husband but her relatives always stood
between husband & wife.
=> Great
story... She seems to be and educated lady must have contact number, fb id etc
etc... does she mean to say that relative and parents accompanied her in
washroom also...
***The
moment husband got copy of CAW Complaint, he filed divorce on the basis of wild
allegations (cruelty) by wife. Her relatives then using M Power got him
arrested for three days. The wife never knew about all that.
=> Ya..
definately all will believe this.... B@LL SH!T... Sunney me accha lag raha hai
relatives ne paisey kharch kiye... hah hah haa...
***She used
to write on networking sites that she loves being with her husband but her
relatives shattered all her hopes to reunion.
=> She
used to write in networking sites... why not contacted directly... kaha hai
phone calls, msgs, emails...
_________________
Regards,
SOME2
""!!!""Failure lies not in
falling down. Failure lies in not getting up""!!!""
SOME3 wrote:
No one remained girl or boy after one is married.
He is a man or women.
Correct this in your conversations.
SOME4 wrote:
i feel this all going for an MOU is b@llsh!t.......
basic is the two spouses have lost faith in one another.... and this faith
can't be brought back so easily....... the base of this loss of faith are the
laws that have been made biased since their beginning...... since the whole
family of the man is deliberately involved in this, its very difficult for a man
to believe his wife if she is genuine in what she is saying........ moreover
todays society is going to be moreover equality driven but the equality needs
equal thinking and equal responsibility............ these biased laws make a
boy more responsible than a girl.... still posing women a weaker section of
society.......... this thinking of the society taking a girl more weak than a
boy in every aspect take it economic or social and giving them opportunity to
go up in their social cadre by making biased laws is the base of the
problem............. this current social thinking of considering a woman weak
and thereby giving them biased laws to play with..... is destroying the
families by generating fear in a man's mind......... what a man can do..... its
difficult to say....... as his whole family is at stake........ second problem
is women are not true to their own-self...... one side they say that they want
to live with the husband but other side they threaten to file false criminal
cases against the husband and his family................ I mean why.......why
do they file criminal cases..... this duel mindedness of the wife is
complicated to understand...............
is she getting something less in the marital
life....... or she thinks she deserves more than what she is getting...........
but hey...... the problem is also with the rich families......... i think the
problem is not money........... most of the girls who file these kind of
criminal cases are well educated girls who are very much capable of earning
money ........... but what is that in their mind that is provoking them to file
false cases,...........
i can think of my case .......... where my wife
took a horrible form from the first week of marriage........ trying to control
me and my financials...... by forcing me to show my investments and my earnings
as she said that doing that was her right......... but why.... she used to
say..... all the money is hers and her father has bought me up from my
families...... what the f--k........ am i a nonsense to toil hard in job in day
and night............. the problems starts with control freakiness of a
girl........... which was well pushed up by the parents of the girl in the
girl's mind mostly done by mother or sister of the girl......... resulting in
start of quarrel in the home.........
these parasitic parents or siblings can't leave
their daughter on her own fearing incapacity of their girl............ to run
her family by her own..... so they start
aturchatur wrote:
Thanks SOME2, SOME3, SOME4, et al for your valuable suggestions.
Let me share my own purely
personal thoughts:-
that, a Girl/ Women/ Female
being abla naari, tries to take decisions in life in such a manner that she
doesn't put herself in bad situation. (This is truth for almost every woman at
least for the abla nari). This is also the root cause of the problem. Because,
SOME1 said, "AURAT KA CHARITRA BADA VICHITRA"
Now, once she is out of
her husband's house then she fears & develops different types of fears by
her own.
And when SOME1 tells her
that you left your husband hence he will do this that, then she easily gets
influenced by it.
She is unable to stop the
fight as she doesn't have faith in herself.
Even if she is working to
the top-most positions still thinking pattern of women is defensive & it's
not as open as
of male thinking pattern.
Fighters pls suggest a MOU which a
male fighter must stick to before taking her back??
SOME3 wrote:
No taking back, fight till it ends.
SOME5 wrote:
Relationship cannot/will
not grow/will not last.... based on the points/conditions written on a piece of
paper [MOU].
Looks like you still have
soft corner for your lady, probable reason is because of your kids.
You can write as many
conditions as possible but who knows that the lady will not change her mind and
repeat the same drama.
"If
history repeats itself, and the unexpected always happens, how incapable must
Man be of learning from experience."
-George Bernard Shaw
DO NOT TRY TO SAVE YOUR
MARRIAGE FOR THE SAKE OF SOCIETY.
IF KIDS ARE
INVOLVED....APPLY FOR VISITATION AND CUSTODY AS APPLICABLE.
KIDS OR NO KIDS....DO NOT
TAKE A 498A WOMEN BACK.
I came across a
post in the forum which depicts that we the victims are the lucky ones. With
the help of these false cases we can get rid of these gruesome ladies and start
afresh in our life.
I'm not against
reconciliation if you are planning to, but this is just my opinion. Decision is
always yours [only yours]
Thanks
Discrimination is advised.
aturchatur wrote:
Make a Strongest MOU which she can NOT accept
And if she
accepts then snakes venom is out & she can live with you with gender
unbiasedness so least trouble next time.
(Most of
these are the discussions of the year 2014)
Thanks Friends, I am
concentrating only on CrPC91, Perjury & RTI's in my cases. But the question
is if that po!sonous sn@ke agrees to take back cases but husband is adamant now
towards, 211, 182, 340, 195, 312, 499, 500 cases on her & she knows that
she might be in trouble (at least trouble in mind) & is willing to settle,
only in that scenario, How can the MOU be made ?
See, the main trouble
comes from 406 & NOT from 498a for the husband. Also the threat comes from
from Belongings, RTR, Maintenance, Dowry, Domestic Relationship, Trusteeship,
Suicide Threats by wife, Criminal Intimidation, 34, adultery, impotency, sexual
relationship, friends interference & involvement, 377 etc etc etc etc.
If SOME1 can write down
all the threats posed by a 498a lady in pointwise & numbered manner in
first 498a case then from there I will myself try to write a MOU which u all
friends can suggest me thereon.
I am narrating the
threats. Friends, pls increase the count by bringing forward 'n' number of
threats which these ladies have posed in front of different fighters so that
including all points we can try to make a MOU to cover up at least the maximum
possible threats IF NOT ALL.
Here starts the list.
Please add even the
remotest allegations by such wives to this list so that a strongest MOU or
Compromise Deed can be prepared.
The list prepared by me is
as follows:-
(1) Belongings
(2) Trusteeship
(3) 406
(4) If False 498a or CAW
with any single false complaint howsoever small it may be ,. . . . .
(5) If serious allegation
like 377, 313, ONDT etc in future . . .. . . . .
(6) RTR
(7) Maintenance
(8) Dowry - - - - - - all
taken back & nothing bla bla bla . . . .
(9) Domestic Relationship
(10) Suicide threats by
wife
(11) Visit any local
Mahila Aayog &/or PS every month to give statement . . .
(12) Suicide threats by
wife . . . . . . .
(13) Cyber threats by wife
. . . . .
(14) Criminal Intimidation
. . . . .
(15) Will take care of
cldren, duty hours . . . . . . . . . what all jobs she will do . . . . . . . .
(16) 34 IPC
(17) Adultery
(18) Impotency
(19) Sexual Relationship
b/w husband-wife & frequency . . . . . . . . & punishment for refusal
&/or wanton
behavior
(20) IPC 377 i.e.,
unnatural sex
(21) Friends role &
interference . . . . . . . .
(22) Any Other work
(304B,u/s,u/s,u/s) which might cause inconvenience to Husband or his family or
relatives.
(23) I understand this MOU
& I am an educated lady & without any pressure or coercion I am signing
this.
(24) My husband will pay
in my so & so bank account number this that & in return I will take
care of household expenses bla bla
(25) Financial Condition:-
She will pay from my own property in case any case is filed in future by me
& I shall NOT be entitled bla bla bla bla . . . . ... . . . . .it's rough
version pls excuse
(26) She admits falsity of
complaint due to instigation by my dissident relatives whose indoctrination
spoiled her married life.
Friends, I request you to come with some creative
ideas so at least one ghonsla is united reading this. And if the parties wish
to divorce from each other then this stronger compromise deed can help them
part their ways amicably without any future troubles or future dispute
possibilities on the agreed terms & conditions.
INTERESTING DISCUSSION of the year 2014
SOME1 wrote:
Use common sense brother:
If u add in MOU that she
cannot accuse u of DV in the future, will MOU protect u if she calls police to
ur home to show self-inflicted injuries? Along with filing a case on u under
DV, u'll be lucky if they don't book u under 307.
aturchatur wrote:
Thanks SOME1 for acting as my NINDAK. First of
all, I repeat as I already wrote above that it is a rough draft & I am
trying to cover all the points.
That's why I wrote, "I am narrating the threats. Friends, pls increase the count
by bringing forward 'n' number of threats which these ladies have posed in front
of different fighters so that including all points we can try to make a MOU to
cover up at least the maximum possible threats IF NOT ALL."
Brothers, et al,
I have NOT made the draft MOU as yet. It is just inclusion of some threats
which a 498a lady poses. When I will write the finalized version for the
benefit of all, that will include technical viewpoints.
SOME1 wrote:
She has all the rights to
get justice if a crime is being committed against her at any point in her life.
Any contract that prevents her from doing so will be declared unenforceable.
aturchatur wrote:
You are
absolutely right brother., But the MOU's purpose will NOT be to prevent her
from getting justice. This MOU will just remove the "ABLA NAARI" tag
from her & whichever false allegation her husband will prove wrong will
make that false allegation of her turn into a criminal complaint against her
DEFINITELY due to wordings of such MOU which I am pretentious of making.
SOME1 wrote:
I have a lawyer who either
answers my questions or he outright admits to me he doesn't know the answer:
according to him, MOU HAS ABSOLUTELY NO POWER to stop any police complain or
court proceedings.(not even current proceedings, let alone the future ones) It can only be used as
an evidence at the most.
aturchatur wrote:
@ SOME1, You yourself answered it above.
That MOU will act as an evidence. That's what I want. In addition to evidence,
it will also act as of such a nature that her falsity might put her behind
bars. If NOT she will have to melt her mettle to prove in court of law. Brother
believe me, The MOU that I am pretentious of making will certainly reduce the
worries to some extent at least & will take the load out of victims of
false cases who will stay cautious thereafter.
SOME1 wrote:
Think, how admissible or
how effective this evidence will be if the alleged crime occurred after signing
MOU.
aturchatur wrote:
Even if this is
lesser admissible in all cases but still it will put a burden on her to prove
all falsity. At least she will be very highly cautious to make the next
complaint against innocent lives. Same cautiousness a wife wants from her
husband who goes to CAW just to scare husband & then goes back with him
& lives in his house with . . . . . ..
Why can't precautions be taken by any husband also while writing MOU
?
SOME1 wrote:
Don't get me wrong Atur, I
admire ur hard work.
aturchatur wrote:
Thanks Bro,
Being my friend you wrote this. This means you are one of my best nindak's who
wants me to improve the tactics. This NINDA helped me positively bro.
SOME1 wrote:
I think
coz of ur hard work u saved huge lawyer fees n ur hard work is making ur wife
behave like a good woman as she's not trying to harm u any further. I think ur
hard work is making the police behave like good boys too.
aturchatur wrote:
You may be correct SOME1 that due to my efforts opp g@ng might be
trying to behave good, but I have solid proofs against all those wrt Contempt
& Perjury.
However, I am least
worried about what they are doing/ intend to do. I am just working on the BANDAID
FORMULA. i.e.,
nip-it-in-the-bud approach.
Source:- check the keyword
nip-it-in-the-bud at http://socialstigma.in
SOME1 wrote:
And I like ur posts coz
they make me laugh as u r a colourful person: recently u've started inserting
latin into ur posts like et al & viz. I don't know whether to admire ur
learning abilities or call u pretentious.
aturchatur wrote:
Thanks Bro.
I admire your heart filled efforts to act as my NINDAK. We will hopefully meet
when u land India.
SOME1 wrote:
Keep up the hard work Atur
Chatur Sir I must say.
aturchatur wrote:
Thanks SOME1,
I take this praise positively & I will try my best to work towards
unification of families wherever possible and to help them in compromise deed
wherever they feel to get separated by way of MOU or Compromise Deed.
SOME1 wrote:
Atur bhaiyaa. Hum kab say
ho gayai aap kay nindak???
I admire u n ur hard work.
How did u ignore this part of my post?
I honestly think u r a
very colourful person n I love reading ur posts.
I think the kind of ideas
u r coming up with, even ur wife does not know what is hitting her.
U r brave enough to file a
case on the police. Not many in this forum can say that.
Need I say more?
Keep up the hard work.
Jeo Atur bhai, jeo.
SOME1 wrote:
Let me say more: u have done all this without any
help from a lawyer.
aturchatur wrote:
@
SOME1 Bro, You read that I told you my NINDAK but don't you know that I
love NINDAK's.
Because NINDAK SACHA
SAATHI HOTA HAI.
A NINDAK is true friend. I
wrote that positively so please cheers as I took that as praise in positive
sense.
Check this post:-
Source:- search keyword “NINDAK” at http://socialstigma.in
SOME1 wrote:
Atur, I just wanted to
debate on a topic. I don't know why u took it personally. I still say do not
compromise with MOU as a pillar. It can collapse easily. If u r gonna
compromise, make sure u r basing ur decision on something more than a MOU.
As my lawyer told me n I
believe him: MOU has no value n can be backed out of at any time.
Brother Atur, I regret
posting a reply here: I did not want to discourage u. U r doing things that I
can only dream of doing. U r a quick learner: when most of us panicked n paid
money to lawyers, u became an adamant student of law n never looked back. Above
all, u posses bravery: I don't know anyone who took on the police.
Tabhi toh hum keh rahay
hai ....
... jeo Atur bhaiyaa, jeo.
Mahatma Gandhi said, "IF YOU DON'T
ASK, YOU DON'T GET"
Atur Chatur
says, "WHAT YOU WILL ASK, THAT YOU WILL GET"
Vidyavaan Guni Ati Chatur, Ram Kaj Karibe Ko Atur
Email : aturchatur@yahoo.com
disclaimer:- all advises here to be r/w profile aturchatur.com
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MOU is the Strongest of Documents
Let me explain an
example:-
An Old Lady was suffering
from a deadly disease & doctor told that she will die in one to three
months max.
Her Only Son was impotent
even after 25 yrs of his marriage with her dauther in law.
Their family was poor
& they couldn't even manage two times food.
This old lady was blind
due to old age.
This lady was an ardent
bhakt of ganesh ji.
Ganesh ji prakat hue aur
poochha mai prassannn hua, bata tujhe kya chahiye?
She said arrr ganesh ji, i
am , mai to, mujhe na, mujhe to . . . . . . . ar, brr, grr,, @!!@$@#%$^$%^
Ganesh ji said, are
ghabrao nahi, mai kal fir aa jaaunga, aap soch k rakhna ki kya chahiye lekin
yaad rakhna mai ek hi vardaan de sakta hoon, do nahi
She said, OK Ganesh ji.
Ganesh ji antardhyan ho gaye.
This lady asked
suggestions from her old friends, neighbours, family etc etc.
SOME1 told ask for your
long age as u are about to die in 3 months.
SOME2 told ask for your
eyes bcoz long age is of no use if u can't see the world.
SOME3 told tu to buddhhi
ho gayi marne wali hai, apne bete k liye naukri/business/paisa maang le
SOME4 told kul ka diya
maang taki tera kul mit na jaaye, apne bete k liye beta(aulad) maang pagli
Old Lady slept with these
thoughts & could not sleep whole night as tomorrow Ganesh Ji will come.
Kya Maangu??
Next Day, Lord Ganesha
came. Aanti ji kaisi hain aap, kuchh socha aapne, batao kya ek vardaan
chahiyte.
She said, "Mai
Sone k palne mein apne pote ko khelta hua dekhna chahti hoon."
Ganesh ji muskuraye aur
vardaan de diya. See how she got everything she wanted urgently.
Sone ka palna =
Money/paisa
pota = boy child
khelte hue dekhu =
vision/eyes & long age for herself & disease free life
NOTE:- These days girls
& boys are equal but this story relates to a time when son's were preferred
over daughters.
But
still one can get an idea how to select wordings of a MOU & include
criminal sections within it gol-mol to make it a strongest of MOU's.
Friends, pls offer
suggestions regarding:-
My above
post which mentions pointers which can be included in a MOU
so we all can try to write a strongest MOU sample
including criminal sections gol-mol into it. Thanks
Mahatma Gandhi said, "IF YOU DON'T
ASK, YOU DON'T GET"
Atur Chatur
says, "WHAT YOU WILL ASK, THAT YOU WILL GET"
Vidyavaan Guni Ati Chatur, Ram Kaj Karibe Ko Atur
Email : aturchatur@yahoo.com
disclaimer:- all advises here to be r/w profile aturchatur.com
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SOME1 wrote:
Court is not bound by any MOU. It should be
the understanding between both the parties either to part or to stay together.
no court entertain cases running and you living together. Court is already
burdened with cases.
MOU's are meant for
non-living as per courts. Courts/law by themselves not gender biased, but the
judges are, the staff, the society...............
SOME2 wrote:
It is always said that the
courts are gender biased or the judges are gender biased. But I think only laws
are gender biased which needs changes and they need to have more check and
balances to stop its misuse.
When I filed cases against
my wife, everyone said that court will not take cognizance against a 498 A abla
nari.
But I knew in my heart
that law may be biased but the judges cannot be. The processes are not biased
and I was right. I got non bailable sections imposed on both the cases against
my wife and throughout the entire process I did not felt for a moment that any
person in the court, be it the magistrates or the peshkars or my lawyer or the
munshi, was biased.
Just file any criminal
case against wife as soon as she leaves her matrimonial home and see how her
dowry and other cases get quashed as counter blast cases. So where is the bias
in judiciary?
However in most of the
cases it is practically not possible for a husband to initiate criminal action
against his wife because he does not want to break his family.
The laws are biased and
the judiciary cannot do anything about it except implementing it.
SOME2 wrote:
Congratulations to Aturchatur
Your
popularity has reached to such a level that you have been successful in getting
not only fans but also
critics
for yourself.
Keep up the good work.
SOME3 wrote:
Guyz the actual fact iz
'men never want to spoil their own life, family & home.
It doez not mean that
women want that, rather the ass HOLEZ surrounding hiz/ wife are the real
culprits'.
Letz take my example :
wife told her parentz to file 498A, 406 etc against her huzband i.e. Me.
If her parentz made her
understand that marriagez are not a joke & moreover they cud!ve made her
understand about the future of our daughter, then my adorable wife wud've NEVER
file false cases against me.
So, saas, sasur, saaliz
etc are the real culprits.
Good day. Cheerz.
aturchatur wrote:
I
AGREE WITH YOU BROTHER, Instigators are the main cause but after a certain time
such a level comes that re0unification becomes impossible so if a man wants
re-union then Compromise Deed needs to be prepared in such a manner that future
filing of false cases becomes unsustainable for the wife. Such points needs to
be included in this for which my draft is already ready. I will share with you
guys asap. Thanks
Mahatma Gandhi said, "IF YOU DON'T
ASK, YOU DON'T GET"
Atur Chatur
says, "WHAT YOU WILL ASK, THAT YOU WILL GET"
Vidyavaan Guni Ati Chatur, Ram Kaj Karibe Ko Atur
Email : aturchatur@yahoo.com
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Yet another interesting discussions
of the year 2014
SOME1 wrote:
Guyz the actual fact iz
'men never want to spoil their own life, family & home. It doez not mean
that women want that, rather the ass HOLEZ surrounding hiz/ wife are the real culprits'.
aturchatur wrote:
Mr. SOME1, You are Correct. I am myself arguing
in & out of court with many people that it is INTERFERENCE, INTERFERENCE
& only INTERFERENCE between two noble souls which destroy their Sacred
GHONSLA.
Source:- http://socialstigma.in
(search keyword INTERFERENCE)
SOME1 wrote:
Letz take my example :
wife told her parentz to file 498A, 406 etc against her huzband i.e. Me. If her
parentz made her understand that marriagez are not a joke & moreover they
cud!ve made her understand about the future of our daughter, then my adorable
wife wud've NEVER file false cases against me. So, saas, sasur, saaliz etc are
the real culprits. Good day. Cheerz.
aturchatur wrote:
Yes Mr. SOME1, That's what there is a need for such
an MOU which NOT only wife signs but her relatives must also sign.
SOME1 wrote:
I fully now agree with Mr.
Aturchatur as MOU is the only way to bring her back. And if you plan to
separate peacefully and amicably then also MOU is the only way out. Atur Chatur
is really the best and the points devised by you are really good and these can
snatch away soft law protective covering from the disgruntled wife.
Keep us the good work
Chatur Bhai. Best of luck!!!
SOME2 wrote:
It is always said that the
courts are gender biased or the judges are gender biased. But I think only laws
are gender biased which needs changes and they need to have more check and
balances to stop its misuse.
aturchatur wrote:
YES, LAWS
ARE GENDER BIASED. And this Gender Biased Law can be cut short through MOU.
A Strongest MOU
is the need of the hour. But the question will the wife sign on it or NOT. Yes,
She will sign on it if you file true Perjury cases on her & she is about to
goto jail. Like a live example SOME2 is already on
this forum.
FORUMLA:- Wife files false criminal cases. If
you file True Criminal Cases on her & also prove that she filed false
cases, then will she maintain the same level of attitude. If she is foolish
then she will ask unscruplous lawyer's/ men who will sell out her soul by false
promises but still won't be able to help her as her Hubby might have filed true
criminal cases on her. She will be on the verge on going to jail & that time
those men will be the first to run away.
SOME2 wrote:
When I filed cases against
my wife, everyone said that court will not take cognizance against a 498 A abla
nari. But I knew in my heart that law may be biased but the judges cannot be.
The processes are not biased and I was right. I got non bailable sections
imposed on both the cases against my wife and I throughout the entire process I
did not felt for a moment that any person in the court, be it the magistrates
or the peshkars or my lawyer or the munshi, was biased.
aturchatur wrote:
That's very
correct. You need to yourself get into this gutter to clean it. Do NOT say mummy
mummy papa papa, is kanoon ne hamare desh ko barbaad kar diya. Mard bano mere
bhai. Apni taqat pehchano. Fight these
cases but keep only one thing in mind to UNITE THE FAMILY. [Ghonsla Nahi Tootna
Chahiye] - Koshish poori karo, aage god ki marzi.
aturchatur wrote:
Perjury on Wife Hint for
fellow fighters:-
http://perjury340.blogspot.com
SOME2 wrote:
Just file any criminal
case against wife as soon as she leaves her matrimonial home and see how her dowry
and other cases get quashed as counter blast cases. So where is the bias in
judiciary?
aturchatur wrote:
Yes, These cases must be
filed immeditely & before she meets any unscruplous lawyer's & so you
can refer her cases as COUNTER BLAST DONE FOR WREAKING VENGEANCE.
SOME2 wrote:
The laws are biased and
the judiciary cannot do anything about it except implementing it.
aturchatur wrote:
Yes, And True Criminal
Cases, Perjury, RTI & CrPC 91 needs to be used as a pre-requisite to
strongest MOU.
Mahatma Gandhi said, "IF YOU DON'T
ASK, YOU DON'T GET"
Atur Chatur
says, "WHAT YOU WILL ASK, THAT YOU WILL GET"
Vidyavaan Guni Ati Chatur, Ram Kaj Karibe Ko Atur
Email : aturchatur@yahoo.com
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